<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Bob,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the below input, I will not be there for the night however Nick, Greg and Daniel will and I think the best thing to do is raise a notion to postpone acceptance of proxy votes etc. I will leave it up to the team on he floor as I have not been involved in organising this event.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Regards,<div><br></div><div>Aimee Maree Forsstrom</div></div><div><br>On 27 Nov 2017, at 6:12 pm, Bob Birchall <<a href="mailto:bob@calyx.net.au">bob@calyx.net.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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There could be any number of members who still haven't got the
papers.<br>
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I got them off-list and sent a proxy within a few hours this
morning. This is not 48 hours before the meeting as the rules
require, so whether it is accepted will be up to the Chairman. But
my reading of the papers is that there is no Chairman. <br>
<br>
I think the meeting is about to start, but the agenda does not give
a starting time (might be in the notice of meeting).<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/11/17 17:27, Aficionado tech
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Afternoon,
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<div>So what I am hearing is that the communication failed and
there is a possible need for extra time for proxy votes etc? </div>
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<div>Can members please let me know how they feel, as there needs
to be enough time for people to feel that they can submit a vote
etc. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Regards,
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<div>Aimee Maree Forsstrom</div>
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On 27 Nov 2017, at 5:06 pm, Paul Foxworthy <<a href="mailto:paul@cohsoft.com.au" moz-do-not-send="true">paul@cohsoft.com.au</a>>
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<div>I have run into a similar thing with a customer where
the attachment was PDF and the MIME type said
octet-stream. Their system has been working for years,
but Google started bouncing these messages sometime in
the last few weeks.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 November 2017 at 15:58,
Jack Burton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jack@saosce.com.au" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jack@saosce.com.au</a>></span>
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Nick Moore <<a href="mailto:nick@mnemote.com" moz-do-not-send="true">nick@mnemote.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> I'm on fastmail: their headers indicate that it
was received with<br>
</span>> valid SPF and a Spam score of 0.0.Gmail
can be greatly mysterious at<br>
> times.<br>
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In general I agree, but in this case I suggest that
gmail was doing the<br>
right thing.<br>
<br>
The message in question had an attachment of type
application/gzip that<br>
had a file name ending in ".zip" (instead of ".gz").<br>
<br>
On platforms where magic numbers are ignored in favour
of legacy<br>
filename extensions (principally Windows & VMS), a
MIME type / file<br>
extension mismatch in a mail attachment is a common
sign of a nefarious<br>
sender.<br>
<br>
Rather than waste cycles scanning the content of such
suspect<br>
attachments, many large scale mail systems that expect
to have Windows<br>
(or VMS) users simply reject.<br>
<br>
After all, if it's not nefarious, it's almost always
an error anyway<br>
(as was presumably the case here).<br>
<br>
So I don't think gmail was at fault in this case
(although I've seen<br>
plenty of others where it was).<br>
<br>
One such bounce could easily be overlooked or mistaken
for a member<br>
who'd simply forgotten to advise of a change to his
email address.<br>
<br>
A whole bunch of them (oddly, quite a number of OSIA
members use Google<br>
for their mail hosting, so I assume the number of
bounces would have<br>
been non-trivial) on the other hand would seem pretty
hard to ignore...<br>
<br>
Personally I was *not* affected (we host our mail
in-house), but I've<br>
heard a few reports off-list today (in addition to
those seen on-list)<br>
of members who were affected.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
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