[Osia-members] Australian Gov Drupal

Aimee Maree aimee at aimeemaree.com
Tue Sep 30 17:48:05 EST 2014


Out of interest if you do a search in USA or Acquia website and not one mention of Previous Next all links and mentions of Acquia and how they are the choice for the Australian government... No mention of any Australians just a USA Fortune 500 company?

Though not the first time Acquia has done this and not the first country either...

http://www.acquia.com/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/australian-government-standardises-acquia-digital-government 


My point still stands though standardisation in code is a wonderful thing.... Standardisation in software is the killer of all future innovation and creator legacy code.... ;) and to change my opinion on that you would have to rewrite my life's experience lol



Regards,

> On 30 Sep 2014, at 2:55 pm, Daniel J Jitnah <djitnah at greenwareit.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I should have referenced the actual home page in the first place
> 
> agov.com.au
> 
> instead of the about page
> 
> agov.com.au/about
> 
> 
>> On 30/09/14 14:11, Bob Birchall wrote:
>> The key to understanding this seems to be the last sentence on this page:  http://agov.com.au/about
>> 
>> My impression is that this is a commercial provider getting into a       specific market with a product based on an open source project.        Others are free to get out there with competing offers.  Ensuring software is readily upgradable and there is no vendor lock-in might be attributes of a competing product someone may design.
> 
> Indeed, nothing stopping a Wordpress or Joomla or CMS-X provider proposing a similar solution based on the specs available from agov. Or even fork Drupal to propose a completely new solution.
> 
> Furthermore, to assume that all cms are freely interchangeable between each other is likely not reasonable.  It may well be that the Drupal solution was considered to be the one best meeting the Au.Gov requirements at this point in time at least.
> 
> On the question of one choice of Drupal, compared to a one choice of Microsoft option, the "one choice situation" for Microsoft also imposed technological constraint, being a closed platform. If you were stuck on a Sharepoint platform migrating to a different platform would be tough option.  But on a Drupal platform its more feasible for example for one to write code to for example migrate to CMS-X.
> 
> It has to be acknowledge that we do have a very different scenery now where the potential for other choices (of CMS) to be considered by the AuGov is now more open.  I would not describe the situation now as being a lock in to Drupal in the same way as it was a lock in to Microsoft.  Such an assertion ignores the fundamental characteristics of Open Source v/s Closed source software.  If we allow these to play out in the longer term, we should end up with a very different situation.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Daniel.
>> 
>> In the end, the ultimate test is customer satisfaction.
>> 
>> Bob Birchall
>> CALYX
>> 
>>> On 30/09/14 13:07, Aimee Maree wrote:
>>> It concerns me to think that the government would standardise on a distribution of Drupal... as a CMS aficionado it concerns me that one solution would be chosen and other open source CMS which might be a lot better then other matches are not looked into. Also the concern is updates because it is a proprietary flavour of Drupal it means upgrades like Drupal8 etc will be dependent upon previous next getting the distro and custom modules upgraded etc... We fought for years to get Open Source as an acceptable choice and looked at in tenders and now it seems this objective has gone too far the other way aka removing choice and selection again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Sep 2014, at 1:02 pm, Daniel J Jitnah <djitnah at greenwareit.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Might be of interest to many who have not seen it before!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://agov.com.au/about
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Daniel.
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